hi thanx for the replies i think i'll get the frontier and see how i get on as although i would happily bbq everyday my mrs doesn't share the passion if i out grow it then i will upgrade but im sure the frontier will give me what i need for a while yet. as for "its the cook not the cooker" i couldnt agree more, i have seen some terrible items served out of webers as good as they may be. as for the bbq bug ever since i got my big kettle (given to me because the old owner was filling it with 12kg of restaraunt grade lump wood as said i got to hot to even get close too let alone cook on

.) i have done a large amount of food Pork shoulder, beer can chicken, chicken thighs ect.. but think that id produce better food buy cooking low and slow for the big cuts/whole birds and use the kettle for the more regular british bbq food thus alowing me to have even more fun!!